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Dear Brother Eric,
From your statements I can't help but get the feeling that you are in a deep inquisitive state right now about the most important questions of existence. I envy you, it is an unsettling but nonetheless a very beneficial state to be in from a spiritual point of you , you are in the cocoon , and you will emerge from the experience with new and better insights, a rebirth so to speak.
I would really encourage you to post any such questions here on this forum and I guarantee you will get some marvelous insights that will help you come up with the answers you are looking for during your seasons of personal prayer and meditation; in the end, the only one that can truly speak to your soul are the spirit ministries because they know you most. (TA, spirit of Truth, Holy Spirit and the guardians) We can only help supply the favorable conditions and spiritual materials for contemplation...
I am curious, have you finished reading the book entirely yet ?
Quote: Concerning prayer, I haven't really found anything like Islam. I honestly don't think I now fit squarely in any religion or the Urantia movement, but overall feel the Papers are the truest and potentially most helpful overall to humanity I think what I admire most about the Islamic prayer is that they do it five times per day consistently, they actually dedicate time for prayer in the middle of their daily lives, not just do it subconsciously while working on some other thing, even if it's for 5 - 10 minutes, I believe it is most beneficial to do so in such intervals. Kind of like hitting " refresh" for our spiritual connectivity .
Quote: At the end of the day, I can't prove the Papers to others or to myself, and there's this nagging feeling that no one really knows what happens after we leave this current life until it actually happens, and that along with everything else that comes to earth, nothing is flawless or 100% truth.
As to your question of what happens after we die, I have read the Qur'an, the Bible (old testament and new ) , Bhagvad Gita, and some on the Buddhist teachings; And I have to say, I found the most comprehensive , consistent, logical, rational , and convincing of all the teachings to be in the UB, as a matter of fact, in a way the UB indirectly explains where the other notions / Ideas about the postmortem existence of the other religions originated from , it really draws the Whole picture.
I can recommend some papers if you are interested.
The only possible way to truly prove the papers to yourself is by Personal Spiritual Experience predicated on FAITH, I leave you with some GEMS to perhaps aid you in your contemplation God Bless
Quote: 102:6.5 Convictions about God may be arrived at through wise reasoning, but the individual becomes God-knowing only by faith, through personal experience. In much that pertains to life, probability must be reckoned with, but when contacting with cosmic reality, certainty may be experienced when such meanings and values are approached by living faith. The God-knowing soul dares to say, “I know,” even when this knowledge of God is questioned by the unbeliever who denies such certitude because it is not wholly supported by intellectual logic. To every such doubter the believer only replies, “How do you know that I do not know?”
101:1.4 Religion lives and prospers, then, not by sight and feeling, but rather by faith and insight. It consists not in the discovery of new facts or in the finding of a unique experience, but rather in the discovery of new and spiritual meanings in facts already well known to mankind. The highest religious experience is not dependent on prior acts of belief, tradition, and authority; neither is religion the offspring of sublime feelings and purely mystical emotions. It is, rather, a profoundly deep and actual experience of spiritual communion with the spirit influences resident within the human mind, and as far as such an experience is definable in terms of psychology, it is simply the experience of experiencing the reality of believing in God as the reality of such a purely personal experience.
102:6.4 Faith transforms the philosophic God of probability into the saving God of certainty in the personal religious experience. Skepticism may challenge the theories of theology, but confidence in the dependability of personal experience affirms the truth of that belief which has grown into faith.
146:3.4 And Jesus said to Thomas: “Your assurance that you have entered into the kingdom family of the Father, and that you will eternally survive with the children of the kingdom, is wholly a matter of personal experience — faith in the word of truth. Spiritual assurance is the equivalent of your personal religious experience in the eternal realities of divine truth and is otherwise equal to your intelligent understanding of truth realities plus your spiritual faith and minus your honest doubts.
_________________ Mark, 9:5.7 Too often, all too often, you mar your minds by insincerity and sear them with unrighteousness;
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