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For years YouTube has been sending advertisements my way in Finnish, Norwegian, Danish and German (which is quite understandable since although I don't know a word of Finnish I am very familiar with the accent Finns impart when they speak other languages, especially Swedish which is very often their second language).

For whatever reason, during the last few days I'm seeing a lot of advertisements in the Greek language, which I also don't know a word of. At first it was difficult to determine which language they were speaking. I definitely detected a sonic and rhythmic resemblance to Finnish and so imagined that they might have been speaking Latvian or Estonian as if a person from Spain or Portugal were speaking Latvian or Estonian. It also felt as if a speaker of a Slavic language were speaking but without any inherited native Slavic speech nuances, if that makes sense. In other words, there may be a root in the Slavic words that is separate and independent of the way the root words are spoken.

Maybe this precipitates the question:

There is a well researched language axis, one might say, of Indo-European derived tongues opposed to non Indo-European derived tongues. Is there an unknown axis of speech that is more linked to sonic and rhythmic types of presentation?

If so, that axis might be more connected to the origins of tribes, clans and other groupings of the people of the Earth. In the UB we are told that the original establishers of the Greek civilization came from the Adamson headquarters just Southeast of the Caspian Sea. We know from history that the ancient Greeks (even under the guise of "Sarmatians") had a very potent impact on high cultural and organizational achievements from the area of the Adamson headquarters across to what is now Istanbul, and of course further into the Mediterranean.

But how do the people who were the ancestors of the Finns and Baltic nations fit into this? They, today, are people of high sensitivity to the more refined and developed aspects of living - hardly the descendants of barbaric and uncultured hordes. There must be something behind all of this which is completely missed by researchers and historians who are not privy to the material and ideas of TUB.


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For years YouTube has been sending advertisements my way in Finnish, Norwegian, Danish and German (which is quite understandable since although I don't know a word of Finnish I am very familiar with the accent Finns impart when they speak other languages, especially Swedish which is very often their second language).

For whatever reason, during the last few days I'm seeing a lot of advertisements in the Greek language, which I also don't know a word of. At first it was difficult to determine which language they were speaking. I definitely detected a sonic and rhythmic resemblance to Finnish and so imagined that they might have been speaking Latvian or Estonian as if a person from Spain or Portugal were speaking Latvian or Estonian. It also felt as if a speaker of a Slavic language were speaking but without any inherited native Slavic speech nuances, if that makes sense. In other words, there may be a root in the Slavic words that is separate and independent of the way the root words are spoken.

Maybe this precipitates the question:

There is a well researched language axis, one might say, of Indo-European derived tongues opposed to non Indo-European derived tongues. Is there an unknown axis of speech that is more linked to sonic and rhythmic types of presentation?

If so, that axis might be more connected to the origins of tribes, clans and other groupings of the people of the Earth. In the UB we are told that the original establishers of the Greek civilization came from the Adamson headquarters just Southeast of the Caspian Sea. We know from history that the ancient Greeks (even under the guise of "Sarmatians") had a very potent impact on high cultural and organizational achievements from the area of the Adamson headquarters across to what is now Istanbul, and of course further into the Mediterranean.

But how do the people who were the ancestors of the Finns and Baltic nations fit into this? They, today, are people of high sensitivity to the more refined and developed aspects of living - hardly the descendants of barbaric and uncultured hordes. There must be something behind all of this which is completely missed by researchers and historians who are not privy to the material and ideas of TUB.


Good observation Riktare... I encountered similar situations, having been raised on the Nez Perce reservation in north central Idaho my native friends had some favorite phrases they would throw out every now and then, and I slowly got used to the sounds. My travels took me to Bolivia and Peru, where I lived a couple of years, and the Quechua tongue is widely used and heard and I was amazed a the sonic similarities between Quechua and Niimi'ipuutímt, which is a Sahaptian language. And since I didn't speak either language these sonic similarities were more obvious to me. However, on this side of the Andes (Brazil) the Tupi-Guarani language doesn't ring with those familiar sounds as Quechua does. So evidently (I am no linguist, merely an observer) the very widespread Tupi-Guarani language evolved differently, and apparently the physical obstacle of the Andes mountains could have been a major factor in this, although recent discoveries https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/amazon-jungle-ancient-population-satellite-computer-model show the Amazon basin was densely populated at one point and the Peabiru Highway connected the Atlantic coast of Brazil with the Andes regions https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20220525-south-americas-unknown-ancient-path. So global linguistic boundaries are a fascinating mystery.

Google is full of references on the subject of languages and their histories that I would like to study when I can. Overall, there is research going on in every scientific area of study that continues to separate the chaff of traditional scientific and religious theory and dogma from the wheat of valid knowledge. Thanks again for your posts Riktare, always insightful and thought provoking!


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