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lol :smile: In that case, I'll respectfully retire from the thread. I initiated it with a particular issue, which I then found a resolution for, and I posted the resolution. If others don't think there is an issue there at all, then let's just agree to disagree.

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I understand where you were coming from before with the whole chemical thing and you could be right. I don't know. But I researched online and I didn't see any theory that states properties repeat where the 9th element matches the 1st. According to the u.b it's a 7-fold relationship but really it's not until the 8th element where the cycle is complete. Which is the same theory I came across online.

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42:9.3 This sevenfold persistence of creative constitution is exhibited in the chemical domains as a recurrence of similar physical and chemical properties in segregated periods of seven when the basic elements are arranged in the order of their atomic weights. When the Urantia chemical elements are thus arranged in a row, any given quality or property tends to recur by sevens. This periodic change by sevens recurs diminishingly and with variations throughout the entire chemical table, being most markedly observable in the earlier or lighter atomic groupings. Starting from any one element, after noting some one property, such a quality will change for six consecutive elements, but on reaching the eighth, it tends to reappear, that is, the eighth chemically active element resembles the first, the ninth the second, and so on.

Hi all. Has this been resolved in the context of the Periodic Table of Elements which (initially) repeats in a cycle of 8 not 7? Thanks very much...
Hi Kiwi. The rows in the so called periodic table of elements obviously do not represent a period 8 (or 7) in terms of atomic weights:
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The periodicity meant by TUB is e.g.: H1, O8, P15, et cetera.. Note that H1, O8, and P15 are all non-metallic elements.. :)


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kiwi2 wrote:
Hi boom, my original point was just that:
- The Urantia Book says that the eighth resembles the first, and the ninth resembles the second
- The Period Table of Elements shows that the ninth resembles the first, and the tenth resembles the second.

(I've tried not to use the word cycle - it isn't needed)

These two are irreconcilable (in the way that I've written them here). But the Urantia Book has an additional phrase, "chemically reactive", which means we can exclude some elements when we are counting them, and it works out.

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good catch with the chemically active bit... that resolves a long standing issue...way to go! :D


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For those looking for "repeating sevens", see below.

For more details, see source: Blocks of 7

Notice the blue-shaded blocks in the table, bounded by the (gold-shaded) noble gases.
Nigel

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3 Lithium 2, 1
4 Beryllium 2, 2
5 Boron 2, 3
6 Carbon 2, 4
7 Nitrogen 2, 5
8 Oxygen 2, 6
9 Fluorine 2, 7
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10 Neon 2, 8
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11 Sodium 2, 8, 1
12 Magnesium 2, 8, 2
13 Aluminium 2, 8, 3
14 Silicon 2, 8, 4
15 Phosphorus 2, 8, 5
16 Sulfur 2, 8, 6
17 Chlorine 2, 8, 7
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18 Argon 2, 8, 8 (Noble)
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29 Copper 2, 8, 18, 1
30 Zinc 2, 8, 18, 2
31 Gallium 2, 8, 18, 3
32 Germanium 2, 8, 18, 4
33 Arsenic 2, 8, 18, 5
34 Selenium 2, 8, 18, 6
35 Bromine 2, 8, 18, 7
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36 Krypton 2, 8, 18, 8 (Noble)
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47 Silver 2, 8, 18, 18, 1
48 Cadmium 2, 8, 18, 18, 2
49 Indium 2, 8, 18, 18, 3
50 Tin 2, 8, 18, 18, 4
51 Antimony 2, 8, 18, 18, 5
52 Tellurium 2, 8, 18, 18, 6
53 Iodine 2, 8, 18, 18, 7
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54 Xenon 2, 8, 18, 18, 8 (Noble)
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79 Gold 2, 8, 18, 32, 18, 1
80 Mercury 2, 8, 18, 32, 18, 2
81 Thallium 2, 8, 18, 32, 18, 3
82 Lead 2, 8, 18, 32, 18, 4
83 Bismuth 2, 8, 18, 32, 18, 5
84 Polonium 2, 8, 18, 32, 18, 6
85 Astatine 2, 8, 18, 32, 18, 7
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86 Radon 2, 8, 18, 32, 18, 8 (Noble)
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Hi All,

A friend recently asked about those "similar physical and chemical properties in segregated periods of seven" (42:9.3) we've been exploring in this thread,

UB wrote:
"Starting from any one element, after noting some one property, such a quality will change for six consecutive elements, but on reaching the eighth, it tends to reappear, that is, the eighth chemically active element resembles the first, the ninth the second, and so on." (paper 42:9.3, page 480.1)

Which got me thinking, and I noticed a neat way to sketch the situation. If anyone's still interested, here's a link to a pdf that shows how neatly this works out,

Link: PeriodicTable (P42-9-3)

These slides show a sequence that slices and dices the periodic table to reveal that "seven-fold pattern of chemical reactivity".

PS: Best viewed as a slide-show, stepping though the slides full screen. (If using Adobe's Acrobat Reader, [CTRL]+L launches full screen view, then use arrow keys to step forwards and back).

Also, a couple of links for background: (1) Electrons per shell, (2) Valence electrons

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