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This is totally off topic but i just read now online that Jehovas witnesses call Jesus, Michael and a creator son too... hmmm....? I thought that info was only found in the Ubook....


Sorry... back to the festivities.... O:)


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Hi Sarah,

I think it's good to post off topic--then we're acting more like a real family. :-)

I recently read the Book of Enoch and noticed they called Jesus Michael there also.

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no more animal husbandry!

66:7.1 (750.3) The Prince’s headquarters, though exquisitely beautiful and designed to awe the primitive men of that age, was altogether modest. The buildings were not especially large as it was the motive of these imported teachers to encourage the eventual development of agriculture through the introduction of animal husbandry. The land provision within the city walls was sufficient to provide for pasturage and gardening for the support of a population of about twenty thousand.

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What I AM thankful for:

At this busy time of year, it is so easy to get caught up in the hustle-bustle of Christmas shopping, Thanksgiving overindulgence, Big-Sale super-savings and all the other material trappings which garishly festoon the end of each year. Surrounded, as we are, by so much excess, it’s easy to forget just how fortunate we are to have been born into a society which leads the world in so many ways. No one can choose the circumstances of life into which we are born. Any one of us could easily have been born in another, harder time, or into another place, somewhere where war, pestilence or desperate poverty is faced on a daily basis. The circumstances Life, on this small sphere is pretty much a crap-shoot… Some Nations and individuals have, while many still have not.

So on this day of Thanksgiving, I, for one, am truly grateful to have been allowed to belong to our American family. We are blessed in so many ways… abundant natural resources, protection on both sides by vast oceans, friendly neighbors and a resilient can-do spirit amongst our peoples. These favorable conditions have produced a dominant civilization which continues to lead the world.

I am also thankful for our new President. The pendulum of progress swings both ways. In the long run, each swing of the pendulum brings society incrementally forward. For a long and mostly favorable era we have enjoyed the leadings of one powerful segment of our society, now it is time to also enjoy the changes which will be brought by another. Each side of our political spectrum has an important contribution to bring to the table. To disparage or debunk either viewpoint is to miss the true path to progress, which so often runs the middle course between two strong opposing views.

Finally, I am thankful for the role God has played in my life. Now, to many who know me, this statement may come as a bit of a surprise. And I like it that way. Like the Master, I prefer to do my good deeds in secret. And unlike some, I prefer to keep my faith to myself. To be “wise as the serpent, yet harmless as the dove”. Religion, to me is an intensely personal affair. At this time in history, as ethics are under siege due to the sudden up-thrust of a technological era, a strong sense of history and universal purpose has never been more important. And, as the established faiths struggle, world-wide, to bring themselves up to date, painfully shedding the superstitions of the past while gradually learning to cloth themselves in the new Truths of a scientific age, it is vial to hold fast to the most basic and profound of beliefs: The fatherhood of God over the Brotherhood of Mankind. Long live the scientific age! Each scientific discovery brings us closer to the Father of all scientists. Someday all mankind will rejoice in the knowledge that science and religion are not mutually exclusive, they are but two sides of the same coin of human experience. This I truly believe.

Happy Thanksgiving!

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no more animal husbandry!

66:7.1 (750.3) The Prince’s headquarters, though exquisitely beautiful and designed to awe the primitive men of that age, was altogether modest. The buildings were not especially large as it was the motive of these imported teachers to encourage the eventual development of agriculture through the introduction of animal husbandry. The land provision within the city walls was sufficient to provide for pasturage and gardening for the support of a population of about twenty thousand.


Evidently there is nothing to be done about these endless and mindless and irrational hijackings???

:-$ :-& :(

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i'm being convicted of sin.

162:7.4 (1797.1) “Which of you convicts me of sin? If I, then, proclaim and live the truth shown me by the Father, why do you not believe? He who is of God hears gladly the words of God; for this cause many of you hear not my words, because you are not of God. Your teachers have even presumed to say that I do my works by the power of the prince of devils. One near by has just said that I have a devil, that I am a child of the devil. But all of you who deal honestly with your own souls know full well that I am not a devil. You know that I honor the Father even while you would dishonor me. I seek not my own glory, only the glory of my Paradise Father. And I do not judge you, for there is one who judges for me."

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rich.sachs wrote:
no more animal husbandry!

66:7.1 (750.3) The Prince’s headquarters, though exquisitely beautiful and designed to awe the primitive men of that age, was altogether modest. The buildings were not especially large as it was the motive of these imported teachers to encourage the eventual development of agriculture through the introduction of animal husbandry. The land provision within the city walls was sufficient to provide for pasturage and gardening for the support of a population of about twenty thousand.


Evidently there is nothing to be done about these endless and mindless and irrational hijackings???

:-$ :-& :(


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p1793:5 162:4.1 The presence of people from all of the known world, from Spain to India, made the feast of tabernacles an ideal occasion for Jesus for the first time publicly to proclaim his full gospel in Jerusalem. At this feast the people lived much in the open air, in leafy booths. It was the feast of the harvest ingathering, and coming, as it did, in the cool of the autumn months, it was more generally attended by the Jews of the world than was the Passover at the end of the winter or Pentecost at the beginning of summer. The apostles at last beheld their Master making the bold announcement of his mission on earth before all the world, as it were.

p1794:1 162:4.2 This was the feast of feasts, since any sacrifice not made at the other festivals could be made at this time. This was the occasion of the reception of the temple offerings; it was a combination of vacation pleasures with the solemn rites of religious worship. Here was a time of racial rejoicing, mingled with sacrifices, Levitical chants, and the solemn blasts of the silvery trumpets of the priests. At night the impressive spectacle of the temple and its pilgrim throngs was brilliantly illuminated by the great candelabras which burned brightly in the court of the women as well as by the glare of scores of torches standing about the temple courts. The entire city was gaily decorated except the Roman castle of Antonia, which looked down in grim contrast upon this festive and worshipful scene. And how the Jews did hate this ever-present reminder of the Roman yoke!

p1794:2 162:4.3 Seventy bullocks were sacrificed during the feast, the symbol of the seventy nations of heathendom. The ceremony of the outpouring of the water symbolized the outpouring of the divine spirit. This ceremony of the water followed the sunrise procession of the priests and Levites. The worshipers passed down the steps leading from the court of Israel to the court of the women while successive blasts were blown upon the silvery trumpets. And then the faithful marched on toward the beautiful gate, which opened upon the court of the gentiles. Here they turned about to face westward, to repeat their chants, and to continue their march for the symbolic water.

p1794:3 162:4.4 On the last day of the feast almost four hundred and fifty priests with a corresponding number of Levites officiated. At daybreak the pilgrims assembled from all parts of the city, each carrying in the right hand a sheaf of myrtle, willow, and palm branches, while in the left hand each one carried a branch of the paradise apple—the citron, or the "forbidden fruit." These pilgrims divided into three groups for this early morning ceremony. One band remained at the temple to attend the morning sacrifices; another group marched down below Jerusalem to near Maza to cut the willow branches for the adornment of the sacrificial altar, while the third group formed a procession to march from the temple behind the water priest, who, to the sound of the silvery trumpets, bore the golden pitcher which was to contain the symbolic water, out through Ophel to near Siloam, where was located the fountain gate. After the golden pitcher had been filled at the pool of Siloam, the procession marched back to the temple, entering by way of the water gate and going directly to the court of the priests, where the priest bearing the water pitcher was joined by the priest bearing the wine for the drink offering. These two priests then repaired to the silver funnels leading to the base of the altar and poured the contents of the pitchers therein. The execution of this rite of pouring the wine and the water was the signal for the assembled pilgrims to begin the chanting of the Psalms from 113 to 118 inclusive, in alternation with the Levites. And as they repeated these lines, they would wave their sheaves at the altar. Then followed the sacrifices for the day, associated with the repeating of the Psalm for the day, the Psalm for the last day of the feast being the eighty-second, beginning with the fifth verse.


8) The season of harvest and giving thanks to God for the bounty of our care and blessing and human labors!!

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100:7.12 (1102.9) I control my enthusiasm; it never controls me.

He was unreservedly dedicated to “the Father’s business.” This divine enthusiasm led his unspiritual brethren to think he was beside himself, but the onlooking universe appraised him as the model of sanity and the pattern of supreme mortal devotion to the high standards of spiritual living. And his controlled enthusiasm was contagious; his associates were constrained to share his divine optimism.

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8) The season of harvest and giving thanks to God for the bounty of our care and blessing and human labors!!


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