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In my opinion, every Paper in the UB expands the human perspective and exponentially magnifies the scale of universe reality and adds multiple layers of the intricacies of interdependent systems and beings and relationships and the actual processes of cause and effect cycles to the universe of universes, from origins to destinies. From the perfection of Havona to the grandeur of the architectural worlds in time to the evolutionary worlds, the creators and their creation are engaged in this magnificent, progressive, experiential, and never-ending adventure of co-creation and the realization/actualization of potential.

The creation of potential and destiny by the realization of experiential wisdom mutually actualized and personalized by Creators and their creations which results in ever expanding causes and effects which eventuate into unimaginable ultimacy of Finality which really isn't quite ultimate or final after all!

This lens of universe perspective includes many elements of context, texture, color, and so many details within the weave of its presentations. There is included a very satisfying speculation by the authors which demonstrate the inherent mysteries and complexities of universe realities which validates our own quest for understanding as the children of time.

I think each form of detail, some so obvious and understandable and some so complex and esoteric (like Paper 106 - hahaha!), appeals to an enormous spectrum of truth seekers who hope to gain insight and perspectives about the realities of creation.

Such a gift! WOW!

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Thank you so much fanofVan for your help as we dove into this Paper. Unfathomable yes, yet the Authors included it. We, like nursing babies, only know that we are hungry and want to be fed and we know where to go to get it. Babies don't need to know the chemical makeup of the mother's milk to benefit and grow! Yet as the baby develops the desire to know, the desre to learn is added to the basic nursing instinct and off he goes, each mortal practically a universe in itself. Reality, new levels of reality as we ascend with a constantly changing view as our concepts deepen and our outlook widens, our foundation of experiential knowledge ever increasing and our capacity for receiving and sharing the love of the Father always expanding! So exciting, so thrilling, motivating, inspiring and edifying! Precept upon precept, line upon line! Off we go!
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"Off we go!"

Indeed so. The trusting and intrepid are undaunted by the uncertainties and difficulties of the ascendant adventure of being and becoming. Companionship is a great comfort and empowering support for such a quest as the transcendental metamorphosis of spiritization. The Tadpole Way is a merry journey of discovery of the wonders of God's friendly universe and the family of creation!

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106:8.3 (1170.6) There are a number of ways in which the Trinity of Trinities can be portrayed. We elect to present the three-level concept, which is as follows:

106:8.4 (1170.7) 1. The level of the three Trinities.

106:8.5 (1170.8) 2. The level of experiential Deity.

106:8.6 (1170.9) 3. The level of the I AM.

106:8.7 (1170.10) These are levels of increasing unification. Actually the Trinity of Trinities is the first level, while the second and third levels are unification-derivatives of the first.

106:8.8 (1171.1) THE FIRST LEVEL: On this initial level of association it is believed that the three Trinities function as perfectly synchronized, though distinct, groupings of Deity personalities.

106:8.9 (1171.2) 1. The Paradise Trinity, the association of the three Paradise Deities—Father, Son, and Spirit. It should be remembered that the Paradise Trinity implies a threefold function—an absolute function, a transcendental function (Trinity of Ultimacy), and a finite function (Trinity of Supremacy). The Paradise Trinity is any and all of these at any and all times.

106:8.10 (1171.3) 2. The Ultimate Trinity. This is the deity association of the Supreme Creators, God the Supreme, and the Architects of the Master Universe. While this is an adequate presentation of the divinity aspects of this Trinity, it should be recorded that there are other phases of this Trinity, which, however, appear to be perfectly co-ordinating with the divinity aspects.

106:8.11 (1171.4) 3. The Absolute Trinity. This is the grouping of God the Supreme, God the Ultimate, and the Consummator of Universe Destiny in regard to all divinity values. Certain other phases of this triune grouping have to do with other-than-divinity values in the expanding cosmos. But these are unifying with the divinity phases just as the power and the personality aspects of the experiential Deities are now in process of experiential synthesis.

106:8.12 (1171.5) The association of these three Trinities in the Trinity of Trinities provides for a possible unlimited integration of reality. This grouping contains causes, intermediates, and finals; inceptors, realizers, and consummators; beginnings, existences, and destinies. The Father-Son partnership has become Son-Spirit and then Spirit-Supreme and on to Supreme-Ultimate and Ultimate-Absolute, even to Absolute and Father-Infinite—the completion of the cycle of reality. Likewise, in other phases not so immediately concerned with divinity and personality, does the First Great Source and Center self-realize the limitlessness of reality around the circle of eternity, from the absoluteness of self-existence, through the endlessness of self-revelation, to the finality of self-realization—from the absolute of existentials to the finality of experientials.

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The Tadpole Way is a merry journey of discovery of the wonders of God's friendly universe and the family of creation!


Haha! :D

So let the journey continue ... O:)

I wonder what would hypothetically be possible and what God will further ordain when seeming completion of reality actualization cycle would attain it's relative completion. What is God's perspective about further development of some another level of reality actualization that spawns another vastness of potential to us for experience. One cycle of completion gives birth to another cycle that brings fresh possibilities and experience?
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Realized potential always results in new and greater potentials. I can perceive no reasonable or logical finality to such a reality.

But...I am just a tadpole after all. Evidently though, even greater minds cannot resolve such a paradox either...except by an eternity of new potentials being realized forevermore. Why would such a perpetuation end? How? What then?

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108:6.8 (1194.1) You humans have begun an endless unfolding of an almost infinite panorama, a limitless expanding of never-ending, ever-widening spheres of opportunity for exhilarating service, matchless adventure, sublime uncertainty, and boundless attainment.

107:4.7 (1181.3) Can you really realize the true significance of the Adjuster’s indwelling? Do you really fathom what it means to have an absolute fragment of the absolute and infinite Deity, the Universal Father, indwelling and fusing with your finite mortal natures? When mortal man fuses with an actual fragment of the existential Cause of the total cosmos, no limit can ever be placed upon the destiny of such an unprecedented and unimaginable partnership. In eternity, man will be discovering not only the infinity of the objective Deity but also the unending potentiality of the subjective fragment of this same God. Always will the Adjuster be revealing to the mortal personality the wonder of God, and never can this supernal revelation come to an end, for the Adjuster is of God and as God to mortal man.

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106:8.13 (1171.6) THE SECOND LEVEL: The co-ordination of the three Trinities inevitably involves the associative union of the experiential Deities, who are genetically associated with these Trinities. The nature of this second level has been sometimes presented as:

106:8.14 (1171.7) 1. The Supreme. This is the deity consequence of the unity of the Paradise Trinity in experiential liaison with the Creator-Creative children of the Paradise Deities. The Supreme is the deity embodiment of the completion of the first stage of finite evolution.

106:8.15 (1171.8) 2. The Ultimate. This is the deity consequence of the eventuated unity of the second Trinity, the transcendental and absonite personification of divinity. The Ultimate consists in a variably regarded unity of many qualities, and the human conception thereof would do well to include at least those phases of ultimacy which are control directing, personally experiencible, and tensionally unifying, but there are many other unrevealed aspects of the eventuated Deity. While the Ultimate and the Supreme are comparable, they are not identical, neither is the Ultimate merely an amplification of the Supreme.

106:8.16 (1172.1) 3. The Absolute. There are many theories held as to the character of the third member of the second level of the Trinity of Trinities. God the Absolute is undoubtedly involved in this association as the personality consequence of the final function of the Trinity Absolute, yet the Deity Absolute is an existential reality of eternity status.

106:8.17 (1172.2) The concept difficulty regarding this third member is inherent in the fact that the presupposition of such a membership really implies just one Absolute. Theoretically, if such an event could take place, we should witness the experiential unification of the three Absolutes as one. And we are taught that, in infinity and existentially, there is one Absolute. While it is least clear as to who this third member can be, it is often postulated that such may consist of the Deity, Universal, and Unqualified Absolutes in some form of unimagined liaison and cosmic manifestation. Certainly, the Trinity of Trinities could hardly attain to complete function short of the full unification of the three Absolutes, and the three Absolutes can hardly be unified short of the complete realization of all infinite potentials.

106:8.18 (1172.3) It will probably represent a minimum distortion of truth if the third member of the Trinity of Trinities is conceived as the Universal Absolute, provided this conception envisions the Universal not only as static and potential but also as associative. But we still do not perceive the relationship to the creative and evolutional aspects of the function of total Deity.

106:8.19 (1172.4) Though a completed concept of the Trinity of Trinities is difficult to form, a qualified concept is not so difficult. If the second level of the Trinity of Trinities is conceived as essentially personal, it becomes quite possible to postulate the union of God the Supreme, God the Ultimate, and God the Absolute as the personal repercussion of the union of the personal Trinities who are ancestral to these experiential Deities. We venture the opinion that these three experiential Deities will certainly unify on the second level as the direct consequence of the growing unity of their ancestral and causative Trinities who constitute the first level.

106:8.20 (1172.5) The first level consists of three Trinities; the second level exists as the personality association of experiential-evolved, experiential-eventuated, and experiential-existential Deity personalities. And regardless of any conceptual difficulty in understanding the complete Trinity of Trinities, the personal association of these three Deities on the second level has become manifest to our own universe age in the phenomenon of the deitization of Majeston, who was actualized on this second level by the Deity Absolute, acting through the Ultimate and in response to the initial creative mandate of the Supreme Being.

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What is God's perspective about further development of some another level of reality actualization that spawns another vastness of potential to us for experience. One cycle of completion gives birth to another cycle that brings fresh possibilities and experience?

Not sure about Dad's perspective O:) but that Melchizedek author of paper 106 writes:

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"At the inconceivably distant future eternity moment of the final completion of the entire master universe, no doubt we will all look back upon its entire history as only the beginning, simply the creation of certain finite and transcendental foundations for even greater and more enthralling metamorphoses in uncharted infinity. At such a future eternity moment the master universe will still seem youthful; indeed, it will be always young in the face of the limitless possibilities of never-ending eternity." (106:7.8)

From this perspective, that perfected grand universe looks like an island continent, the master universe like nested continental shelves... and lo, surrounding all this is that infinite ocean of quiescent geographic extent... (11:7.2)

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The Tadpole Way is a merry journey of discovery of the wonders of God's friendly universe and the family of creation!


Haha! :D

So let the journey continue ... O:)

I wonder what would hypothetically be possible and what God will further ordain when seeming completion of reality actualization cycle would attain it's relative completion. What is God's perspective about further development of some another level of reality actualization that spawns another vastness of potential to us for experience. One cycle of completion gives birth to another cycle that brings fresh possibilities and experience?


Me too Rhinodonter. I suspect when all seven universe rings are settled in light and life, we'll party. At that party, while God the Supreme, God the Ultimate, and God the Absolute are dancing, God the Father will announce: "Surprise! Here are seventy more rings!!"


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Thank you brother Nigel and brother Rick, wonderfull perspectives... O:)

Infinite parties throughout eternity... What a reason to exist ! :D
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106:8.21 (1172.6) THE THIRD LEVEL: In an unqualified hypothesis of the second level of the Trinity of Trinities, there is embraced the correlation of every phase of every kind of reality that is, or was, or could be in the entirety of infinity. The Supreme Being is not only spirit but also mind and power and experience. The Ultimate is all this and much more, while, in the conjoined concept of the oneness of the Deity, Universal, and Unqualified Absolutes, there is included the absolute finality of all reality realization.

106:8.22 (1172.7) In the union of the Supreme, Ultimate, and the complete Absolute, there could occur the functional reassembly of those aspects of infinity which were originally segmentalized by the I AM, and which resulted in the appearance of the Seven Absolutes of Infinity. Though the universe philosophers deem this to be a most remote probability, still, we often ask this question: If the second level of the Trinity of Trinities could ever achieve trinity unity, what then would transpire as a consequence of such deity unity? We do not know, but we are confident that it would lead directly to the realization of the I AM as an experiential attainable. From the standpoint of personal beings it could mean that the unknowable I AM had become experiencible as the Father-Infinite. What these absolute destinies might mean from a nonpersonal standpoint is another matter and one which only eternity could possibly clarify. But as we view these remote eventualities as personal creatures, we deduce that the final destiny of all personalities is the final knowing of the Universal Father of these selfsame personalities.

106:8.23 (1173.1) As we philosophically conceive of the I AM in past eternity, he is alone, there is none beside him. Looking forward into future eternity, we do not see that the I AM could possibly change as an existential, but we are inclined to forecast a vast experiential difference. Such a concept of the I AM implies full self-realization—it embraces that limitless galaxy of personalities who have become volitional participants in the self-revelation of the I AM, and who will remain eternally as absolute volitional parts of the totality of infinity, final sons of the absolute Father.

9. Existential Infinite Unification

106:9.1 (1173.2) In the concept of the Trinity of Trinities we postulate the possible experiential unification of limitless reality, and we sometimes theorize that all this may happen in the utter remoteness of far-distant eternity. But there is nonetheless an actual and present unification of infinity in this very age as in all past and future universe ages; such unification is existential in the Paradise Trinity. Infinity unification as an experiential reality is unthinkably remote, but an unqualified unity of infinity now dominates the present moment of universe existence and unites the divergencies of all reality with an existential majesty that is absolute.

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Those who await perfection are missing the adventures of perfecting!!!

Tourists seek destinations while travelers enjoy the journey!!

Life is a trip...not a destination....!

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Clearly, we cannot grasp the existential realities presented here from an experiential perspective. Perhaps we never will. But the facts of potentiality and its actualization creating ever new realities and potential by creative partnerships of the existential and experiential beings from eternity and from time is a thrilling and inspiring glimpse into the grandeur of the adventures ahead for the tadpoles of time.

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9. Existential Infinite Unification

106:9.1 (1173.2) In the concept of the Trinity of Trinities we postulate the possible experiential unification of limitless reality, and we sometimes theorize that all this may happen in the utter remoteness of far-distant eternity. But there is nonetheless an actual and present unification of infinity in this very age as in all past and future universe ages; such unification is existential in the Paradise Trinity. Infinity unification as an experiential reality is unthinkably remote, but an unqualified unity of infinity now dominates the present moment of universe existence and unites the divergencies of all reality with an existential majesty that is absolute.

106:9.2 (1173.3) When finite creatures attempt to conceive of infinite unification on the finality levels of consummated eternity, they are face to face with intellect limitations inherent in their finite existences. Time, space, and experience constitute barriers to creature concept; and yet, without time, apart from space, and except for experience, no creature could achieve even a limited comprehension of universe reality. Without time sensitivity, no evolutionary creature could possibly perceive the relations of sequence. Without space perception, no creature could fathom the relations of simultaneity. Without experience, no evolutionary creature could even exist; only the Seven Absolutes of Infinity really transcend experience, and even these may be experiential in certain phases.

106:9.3 (1173.4) Time, space, and experience are man’s greatest aids to relative reality perception and yet his most formidable obstacles to complete reality perception. Mortals and many other universe creatures find it necessary to think of potentials as being actualized in space and evolving to fruition in time, but this entire process is a time-space phenomenon which does not actually take place on Paradise and in eternity. On the absolute level there is neither time nor space; all potentials may be there perceived as actuals.

106:9.4 (1173.5) The concept of the unification of all reality, be it in this or any other universe age, is basically twofold: existential and experiential. Such a unity is in process of experiential realization in the Trinity of Trinities, but the degree of the apparent actualization of this threefold Trinity is directly proportional to the disappearance of the qualifications and imperfections of reality in the cosmos. But total integration of reality is unqualifiedly and eternally and existentially present in the Paradise Trinity, within which, at this very universe moment, infinite reality is absolutely unified.

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32:3.8 (361.3) Excepting perfect beings of Deity origin, all will creatures in the superuniverses are of evolutionary nature, beginning in lowly estate and climbing ever upward, in reality inward. Even highly spiritual personalities continue to ascend the scale of life by progressive translations from life to life and from sphere to sphere. And in the case of those who entertain the Mystery Monitors, there is indeed no limit to the possible heights of their spiritual ascent and universe attainment.

32:3.9 (361.4) The perfection of the creatures of time, when finally achieved, is wholly an acquirement, a bona fide personality possession. While the elements of grace are freely admixed, nevertheless, the creature attainments are the result of individual effort and actual living, personality reaction to the existing environment.

32:3.10 (361.5) The fact of animal evolutionary origin does not attach stigma to any personality in the sight of the universe as that is the exclusive method of producing one of the two basic types of finite intelligent will creatures. When the heights of perfection and eternity are attained, all the more honor to those who began at the bottom and joyfully climbed the ladder of life, round by round, and who, when they do reach the heights of glory, will have gained a personal experience which embodies an actual knowledge of every phase of life from the bottom to the top.

32:3.11 (361.6) In all this is shown the wisdom of the Creators. It would be just as easy for the Universal Father to make all mortals perfect beings, to impart perfection by his divine word. But that would deprive them of the wonderful experience of the adventure and training associated with the long and gradual inward climb, an experience to be had only by those who are so fortunate as to begin at the very bottom of living existence.

32:3.12 (362.1) In the universes encircling Havona there are provided only a sufficient number of perfect creatures to meet the need for pattern teacher guides for those who are ascending the evolutionary scale of life. The experiential nature of the evolutionary type of personality is the natural cosmic complement of the ever-perfect natures of the Paradise-Havona creatures. In reality, both perfect and perfected creatures are incomplete as regards finite totality. But in the complemental association of the existentially perfect creatures of the Paradise-Havona system with the experientially perfected finaliters ascending from the evolutionary universes, both types find release from inherent limitations and thus may conjointly attempt to reach the sublime heights of the ultimate of creature status.

32:3.13 (362.2) These creature transactions are the universe repercussions of actions and reactions within the Sevenfold Deity, wherein the eternal divinity of the Paradise Trinity is conjoined with the evolving divinity of the Supreme Creators of the time-space universes in, by, and through the power-actualizing Deity of the Supreme Being.

32:3.14 (362.3) The divinely perfect creature and the evolutionary perfected creature are equal in degree of divinity potential, but they differ in kind. Each must depend on the other to attain supremacy of service. The evolutionary superuniverses depend on perfect Havona to provide the final training for their ascending citizens, but so does the perfect central universe require the existence of the perfecting superuniverses to provide for the full development of its descending inhabitants.

32:3.15 (362.4) The two prime manifestations of finite reality, innate perfection and evolved perfection, be they personalities or universes, are co-ordinate, dependent, and integrated. Each requires the other to achieve completion of function, service, and destiny.

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106:9.5 (1174.1) The paradox created by the experiential and the existential viewpoints is inevitable and is predicated in part on the fact that the Paradise Trinity and the Trinity of Trinities are each an eternity relationship which mortals can only perceive as a time-space relativity. The human concept of the gradual experiential actualization of the Trinity of Trinities—the time viewpoint—must be supplemented by the additional postulate that this is already a factualization—the eternity viewpoint. But how can these two viewpoints be reconciled? To finite mortals we suggest the acceptance of the truth that the Paradise Trinity is the existential unification of infinity, and that the inability to detect the actual presence and completed manifestation of the experiential Trinity of Trinities is in part due to reciprocal distortion because of:

106:9.6 (1174.2) 1. The limited human viewpoint, the inability to grasp the concept of unqualified eternity.

106:9.7 (1174.3) 2. The imperfect human status, the remoteness from the absolute level of experientials.

106:9.8 (1174.4) 3. The purpose of human existence, the fact that mankind is designed to evolve by the technique of experience and, therefore, must be inherently and constitutively dependent on experience. Only an Absolute can be both existential and experiential.

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106:9.9 (1174.5) The Universal Father in the Paradise Trinity is the I AM of the Trinity of Trinities, and the failure to experience the Father as infinite is due to finite limitations. The concept of the existential, solitary, pre-Trinity nonattainable I AM and the postulate of the experiential post-Trinity of Trinities and attainable I AM are one and the same hypothesis; no actual change has taken place in the Infinite; all apparent developments are due to increased capacities for reality reception and cosmic appreciation.

106:9.10 (1174.6) The I AM, in the final analysis, must exist before all existentials and after all experientials. While these ideas may not clarify the paradoxes of eternity and infinity in the human mind, they should at least stimulate such finite intellects to grapple anew with these never-ending problems, problems which will continue to intrigue you on Salvington and later as finaliters and on throughout the unending future of your eternal careers in the wide-spreading universes.

106:9.11 (1174.7) Sooner or later all universe personalities begin to realize that the final quest of eternity is the endless exploration of infinity, the never-ending voyage of discovery into the absoluteness of the First Source and Center. Sooner or later we all become aware that all creature growth is proportional to Father identification. We arrive at the understanding that living the will of God is the eternal passport to the endless possibility of infinity itself. Mortals will sometime realize that success in the quest of the Infinite is directly proportional to the achievement of Fatherlikeness, and that in this universe age the realities of the Father are revealed within the qualities of divinity. And these qualities of divinity are personally appropriated by universe creatures in the experience of living divinely, and to live divinely means actually to live the will of God.

106:9.12 (1175.1) To material, evolutionary, finite creatures, a life predicated on the living of the Father’s will leads directly to the attainment of spirit supremacy in the personality arena and brings such creatures one step nearer the comprehension of the Father-Infinite. Such a Father life is one predicated on truth, sensitive to beauty, and dominated by goodness. Such a God-knowing person is inwardly illuminated by worship and outwardly devoted to the wholehearted service of the universal brotherhood of all personalities, a service ministry which is filled with mercy and motivated by love, while all these life qualities are unified in the evolving personality on ever-ascending levels of cosmic wisdom, self-realization, God-finding, and Father worship.

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We are taught that the universe levels of reality are to be experienced by transcendental evolutionary and experiential progression by the tadpoles of time who respond to the Deity Connections to our personal selfhood. The more spiritized we become, the more real we are and the greater our understanding of the paradoxes presented here of the creative harmonies of the experiential and existential.

Those who are experiential and those who are existential are co-creating a third level of reality and a new set of potentiality effects delivered by this new form of causation in the eternal future, somehow already realized in the forever now.

As I have said before, "If you're not confused then you are not paying attention!!"

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I hope our confusions will not deter or overly frustrate our pursuit of understanding the universe realities and perspective presented in the Papers. Besides the function of fact on perspective, there is also a great value in stretching our imagination and comprehension to allow insights, and the paradigm or perspective shifts, which so often accompany such exercise and effort, as stephen expressed so well here recently:

"Even after 50 years I still, when reading through yet again, find new understandings and increased comprehension as the Book does its work on my mind. I believe that the Book is not just a reference and teaching tool, it is a mechanism, designed by our designers, that manipulates our minds in ways that we as yet cannot completely fathom."

We are told that ignorance and prejudice are great obstacles to personal progress. Consider then what that implies about the pursuit of knowledge and understanding of meanings and realization of values within new meanings thusly discovered!

So to those intrepid truth seekers who are so far undaunted by Paper 106...there is more! More to perplex and baffle us with the intricacies and complexities of the dance of existential and experiential Deity and the children of time, and the eternal adventures of cause and effect, the actualization of potential creating ever new and more potential for future realization in that time stream residing within the eternal now that always was and is and will be and might become and has already become, at least to some.

Paradox is so profoundly satisfying and nutritious and a powerful tool for the discovery AND delivery of truth and meaning. A tool frequently used by the Master in addition to his parables and within those. A tool which so often befuddled his enemies while illuminating eternal truths and universe realities. Zen likewise pursues understanding and perspective through the keyhole of such a looking glass too by the method of the koan.

Let us feast further on the immensity and enormity of reality!!

Below please find links to additional study materials written by William Sadler, Jr. posted at the Foundation website which many students have found quite helpful, especially related to these more complex topics presented.

https://www.urantia.org/urantia-book/study

https://www.urantia.org/study-master-un ... r-universe

https://www.urantia.org/study-master-un ... t_epilogue

https://www.urantia.org/study-master-un ... -final-age

And the later Appendices:

https://www.urantia.org/appendices-stud ... r-universe

As related to Paper 106 especially, study numbers 23-27:

https://www.urantia.org/appendices-stud ... -trinities

Enjoy!

Bradly 8)

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