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fanofVan wrote: “Peter, put up your sword. They who take the sword shall perish by the sword. Do you not understand that it is the Father’s will that I drink this cup?
Bradly, it seems that you do not understand the context of the sword here, or maybe you do. The police officers killed in Dallas lived by theirs guns and they died. Perhaps you are correct in your assessment. All officers should put up their guns, sheath their swords. I suggest they start in your neighborhood. Perhaps you could organize a community watch that can study the problem of crime and devise a suitable weapon. This will take a great deal of research, of course. Since you are a teacher and a scholar, perhaps a defense mounted by 2000 paper cuts.
fanofVan wrote: And those who "clamor" for equal rights (one must presume the author above means that whites or the "majority" of Americans have no interest in nor should they have any interest in "equal rights" - absurd on its very premise - I'm pretty sure both the Constitution and the Supreme Court are also interested in equal rights!) are those who suffer most by a lack of equal protection under the law (including over half the population when women's rights are included...not to mention them as victims of violence most often) and which so called "minorities" are also the most victimized by gun violence....those crazy "minorities" (a rather US centric and myopic perspective on a much larger and far more complicated issue - who's a minority globally?), what ARE they thinking??!!
I happen to be one of those "crazy minorities", Bradly, and you are white as the driven snow. What does that matter? I am nobodies victim. Gun violence needs no qualifier. Violence is violence. If words could kill, where would I be now? I am not a native of this country but I have no problem with being US centric. I live in the US and my view is from here. It is the hypocrite that claims a view not their own.
fanofVan wrote: So, according to the reasoning of the statement above, those who fight FOR gun rights are AGAINST equal rights? Or those who fight for equal rights are against gun ownership?
What do you fight for Bradly, and what do you fight with? Do you fight windmills? You have no effective weapon, then, unless you can calm the winds.
fanofVan wrote: Or is it that the statement above means that equal rights are bad while gun ownership is good? If we only had fewer civil rights and more guns, our problems would be over??!! The "equalizer" is more guns and not more rights? REALLY!!??
How hypocritical! You want civil rights but you are against the right to bear arms, is that it? Where do you stand on the right to free speech? Can anybody speak and have an opinion, or only some? Can anyone own a gun, or only some? Are some more equal than others. I am a minority, so maybe I should be able to yell louder and and carry bigger guns.
fanofVan wrote: This topic is political, it is nationalistically USA, narrow in scope, and inherently flawed "reasoning" based on fear. Do Americans still need to be armed with military grade assault weapons to defend ourselves from the tyranny of our own government?
I do believe we should be free to buy what ever arms, we as individuals, feel we need to protect ourselves. Address my father and grandfather, Cuban freedom fighters and anti-revolutionaries, who needed arms of military grade to defend against the tyranny of their own government. You may not speak to them now for they have passed, but perhaps you can imagine a military prison where torture made death welcomed. But you, as a narrow minded, self-hating American, cannot see beyond your safe shores and can avoid the very unpleasant world while you study it from your Ivory Tower.
fanofVan wrote: As for totalitarianism and gun control...you mean like the Brits, and Dutch, and French, and Danes? It's kind of ironic that the Brits are the reason for the US Second Amendment but they abolished slavery before us and have so much less one on one violence than us. As do the Canadians but they have more guns than us....but not assault grade, high capacity, crowd killing weapons...like we protect here so diligently!
I mean the Castro brothers, who confiscated the guns from the populace and now control the people of that island through malnutrition, mind control and fear. The Brits have less violence, but they also enjoy less freedom. North Korea has even less crime. Perhaps their model should be followed. Perhaps you could research that system, study it well, and report back to us.
fanofVan wrote: Speaking of being duped by the free press, for those who dig deeper, there is significant empirical evidence that demonstrates the reality that in the USA and globally, there has been a steady decline in violent deaths by all sources over the past 6 decades.
Yes, this is true. This steady decline, at least in this country, mirrors that steady increase in gun ownership by law abiding citizens. Criminals hate it when the innocent shoot back. They tend to think twice.
fanofVan wrote: Let us be very, very afraid. And assuage our fear with guns. Which most often kills either the owner or a family member, often the children in "gun houses". Yes, quite the solution.
I do not fear guns, it is the evil mind that finds ways to be violent. I do not fear the sword nor the knife, nor the fist, nor the assault weapon. I find that the mind that is unholy is naturally violent and animalistic.
alwilliams767 wrote: Evolution is not pretty, but it is terribly effective.
Not to mention, evolution is part of a divine plan.
fanofVan wrote: Perhaps what we need is more educated, employed, and civilized citizens, all of whom enjoy equal protection under the law - regardless of race, creed, religion, dress, diet, etc.?!
I gather that you want all of this now, right now. Perhaps you can organize a protest if you don't get what you want, right NOW!
That would certainly be Bradly's plan. But would it be a divine plan? You do not want evolution, Bradly, you want revolution. I have seen what this kind of thinking can do to people and countries.
fanofVan wrote: What a brain trust on display. God save us from such thinking, especially here of all places!! Talk about a lack of real thinking.
Are you looking in the mirror again, Bradly? Remember, vanity is the devil's favorite sin.
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