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I (Bradly) posted: "Physical realities do not operate merely by physics. There is far more going on than energy, matter, force, mass, momentum, etc."
You (pethuel) replied: "Yes, but there is a sort of autopilot of the universal laws of physics in constant control, right? "
Fascinating question!!
Yes....and no!!
The Urantia Papers say that God is the "upholder" of all reality, including material reality.
I agree certainly that there are "universal laws of physics" that are automatic cause and effect reciprocation that preclude and prevent chaos and apply universal and predictable patterns for the more creative personalities who manage and manipulate those material realities of nonpersonal relationships.
But...the laws of physics are very dependent on personal beings and minded but impersonal/nonpersonal agents/agencies presented in the text as critical to the creation and functionality of those material realities and related laws of physics too!
So...the laws of physics are not really "in constant control" so much, perhaps, as they are predictable reciprocations, or cause and effect relationships of matter and energy(?). There really are personalities and agents/agencies of Deity that are in control.
Material reality is growing by area, matter, energy, etc. by creationist, both within the current 7 Super Universes and in the Outer Space Levels (estimated in the UB to become 700,000 times bigger than the current 7 Super Universes. No part of evolutionary reality is fixed or static; there is always more and more of everything.
1:0.1 (21.1)THE Universal Father is the God of all creation, the First Source and Center of all things and beings. First think of God as a creator, then as a controller, and lastly as an infinite upholder. .....
4:1.6 (55.4)The Universal Father has not withdrawn from the management of the universes; he is not an inactive Deity. If God should retire as the present upholder of all creation, there would immediately occur a universal collapse. Except for God, there would be no such thing as reality. At this very moment, as during the remote ages of the past and in the eternal future, God continues to uphold. The divine reach extends around the circle of eternity. The universe is not wound up like a clock to run just so long and then cease to function; all things are constantly being renewed. The Father unceasingly pours forth energy, light, and life. The work of God is literal as well as spiritual. “He stretches out the north over the empty space and hangs the earth upon nothing.”
As an example...just ahead in Paper 42:
42:4.3 (473.1)The power centers and their associates are much concerned in the work of transmuting the ultimaton into the circuits and revolutions of the electron. These unique beings control and compound power by their skillful manipulation of the basic units of materialized energy, the ultimatons. They are masters of energy as it circulates in this primitive state. In liaison with the physical controllers they are able to effectively control and direct energy even after it has transmuted to the electrical level, the so-called electronic stage. But their range of action is enormously curtailed when electronically organized energy swings into the whirls of the atomic systems. Upon such materialization, these energies fall under the complete grasp of the drawing power of linear gravity.
It would be interesting to study those agents and agencies which transmit and transmute and transfer and transform and modulate and regulate the material and energy elements of reality and the related physics of material realities presented in the UB.
For example, Paper 29 offers important information very relevant to our study of Paper 42:
29:0.1 (319.1)OF ALL the universe personalities concerned in the regulation of interplanetary and interuniverse affairs, the power directors and their associates have been the least understood on Urantia. While your races have long known of the existence of angels and similar orders of celestial beings, little information concerning the controllers and regulators of the physical domain has ever been imparted. Even now I am permitted fully to disclose only the last of the following three groups of living beings having to do with force control and energy regulation in the master universe:
29:0.2 (319.2)1. Primary Eventuated Master Force Organizers.
29:0.3 (319.3)2. Associate Transcendental Master Force Organizers.
29:0.4 (319.4)3. Universe Power Directors.
29:0.5 (319.5)Though I deem it impossible to portray the individuality of the various groups of directors, centers, and controllers of universe power, I hope to be able to explain something about the domain of their activities. They are a unique group of living beings having to do with the intelligent regulation of energy throughout the grand universe. Including the supreme directors, they embrace the following major divisions:
29:0.6 (319.6)1. The Seven Supreme Power Directors.
29:0.7 (319.7)2. The Supreme Power Centers.
29:0.8 (319.3. The Master Physical Controllers.
29:0.9 (319.9)4. The Morontia Power Supervisors.
29:0.10 (319.10)The Supreme Power Directors and Centers have existed from the near times of eternity, and as far as we know, no more beings of these orders have been created. The Seven Supreme Directors were personalized by the Seven Master Spirits, and then they collaborated with their parents in the production of more than ten billion associates. Before the days of the power directors the energy circuits of space outside of the central universe were under the intelligent supervision of the Master Force Organizers of Paradise.
29:0.11 (319.11)Having knowledge about material creatures, you have at least a contrastive conception of spiritual beings; but it is very difficult for the mortal mind to envisage the power directors. In the scheme of ascendant progression to higher levels of existence you have nothing directly to do with either the supreme directors or the power centers. On certain rare occasions you will have dealings with the physical controllers, and you will work freely with the supervisors of morontia power upon reaching the mansion worlds. These Morontia Power Supervisors function so exclusively in the morontia regime of the local creations that it is deemed best to narrate their activities in the section dealing with the local universe.
Consider:
4:2.1 (56.5)Nature is in a limited sense the physical habit of God. The conduct, or action, of God is qualified and provisionally modified by the experimental plans and the evolutionary patterns of a local universe, a constellation, a system, or a planet. God acts in accordance with a well-defined, unchanging, immutable law throughout the wide-spreading master universe; but he modifies the patterns of his action so as to contribute to the co-ordinate and balanced conduct of each universe, constellation, system, planet, and personality in accordance with the local objects, aims, and plans of the finite projects of evolutionary unfolding.
4:2.2 (56.6)Therefore, nature, as mortal man understands it, presents the underlying foundation and fundamental background of a changeless Deity and his immutable laws, modified by, fluctuating because of, and experiencing upheavals through, the working of the local plans, purposes, patterns, and conditions which have been inaugurated and are being carried out by the local universe, constellation, system, and planetary forces and personalities. For example: As God’s laws have been ordained in Nebadon, they are modified by the plans established by the Creator Son and Creative Spirit of this local universe; and in addition to all this the operation of these laws has been further influenced by the errors, defaults, and insurrections of certain beings resident upon your planet and belonging to your immediate planetary system of Satania.
4:2.3 (56.7) Nature is a time-space resultant of two cosmic factors: first, the immutability, perfection, and rectitude of Paradise Deity, and second, the experimental plans, executive blunders, insurrectionary errors, incompleteness of development, and imperfection of wisdom of the extra-Paradise creatures, from the highest to the lowest. Nature therefore carries a uniform, unchanging, majestic, and marvelous thread of perfection from the circle of eternity; but in each universe, on each planet, and in each individual life, this nature is modified, qualified, and perchance marred by the acts, the mistakes, and the disloyalties of the creatures of the evolutionary systems and universes; and therefore must nature ever be of a changing mood, whimsical withal, though stable underneath, and varied in accordance with the operating procedures of a local universe.
4:2.4 (57.1)Nature is the perfection of Paradise divided by the incompletion, evil, and sin of the unfinished universes. This quotient is thus expressive of both the perfect and the partial, of both the eternal and the temporal. Continuing evolution modifies nature by augmenting the content of Paradise perfection and by diminishing the content of the evil, error, and disharmony of relative reality.
4:2.5 (57.2)God is not personally present in nature or in any of the forces of nature, for the phenomenon of nature is the superimposition of the imperfections of progressive evolution and, sometimes, the consequences of insurrectionary rebellion, upon the Paradise foundations of God’s universal law. As it appears on such a world as Urantia, nature can never be the adequate expression, the true representation, the faithful portrayal, of an all-wise and infinite God.
4:2.6 (57.3)Nature, on your world, is a qualification of the laws of perfection by the evolutionary plans of the local universe. What a travesty to worship nature because it is in a limited, qualified sense pervaded by God; because it is a phase of the universal and, therefore, divine power! Nature also is a manifestation of the unfinished, the incomplete, the imperfect outworkings of the development, growth, and progress of a universe experiment in cosmic evolution.
4:2.7 (57.4)The apparent defects of the natural world are not indicative of any such corresponding defects in the character of God. Rather are such observed imperfections merely the inevitable stop-moments in the exhibition of the ever-moving reel of infinity picturization. It is these very defect-interruptions of perfection-continuity which make it possible for the finite mind of material man to catch a fleeting glimpse of divine reality in time and space. The material manifestations of divinity appear defective to the evolutionary mind of man only because mortal man persists in viewing the phenomena of nature through natural eyes, human vision unaided by morontia mota or by revelation, its compensatory substitute on the worlds of time.
4:2.8 (57.5)And nature is marred, her beautiful face is scarred, her features are seared, by the rebellion, the misconduct, the misthinking of the myriads of creatures who are a part of nature, but who have contributed to her disfigurement in time. No, nature is not God. Nature is not an object of worship.
Consider the effects of evolutionary perfecting on creation and the new causes of effects by the experiential wisdom gained by Deity and the children of time in the universes to come in the eternal adventures and future!!
So...the universe of universes is not only growing in its vastness but it is increasingly affected by the experiential Deities' control and manipulations as more and more potentials are realized and actualized by the perfecting in time of the growing universes of time.
There's a lot going on with so many dynamics of flux and metamorphic transformation and transmutation.
The reliance on physics by human science to explain material reality can never be confirmed and will never explain what we observe of reality.
_________________ "Live loyally today—grow—and tomorrow will attend to itself. The quickest way for a tadpole to become a frog is to live loyally each moment as a tadpole."
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