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 Forum: Questions & Answers   Topic: New member with questions!

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 10:08 pm +0000 

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But ...are we both right? Or both wrong? Or both both?? Speculation is fun, throughout the universes of time. Naturally mine is more fun than another's...hahaha. I think it is important to not judge others harshly regarding our own standards or knowledge or comprehension or beliefs about what others...

 Forum: Questions & Answers   Topic: New member with questions!

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 4:05 pm +0000 

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Suicide is often a rejection of suffering, but not of God or mercy or help. Sometimes even, it's an act of nobility and honor. One must be sin identified - knowing and deliberate. I think pretty much sociopathic and psychopathic - incapable of empathy or giving mercy or caring or sharing. Self annih...

 Forum: Questions & Answers   Topic: New member with questions!

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 3:03 pm +0000 

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Enno says: "Then if you're telling me that the papers say that, then the annihilation of anyone is not true. Including Lucifer. So let's go with that. Remember, Jesus said "forgive them, for they know not what they do" which must then include Lucifer." Of course both are true. Be...

 Forum: Questions & Answers   Topic: New member with questions!

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 2:09 pm +0000 

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Truth, beauty, and goodness that we experience or express becomes part of our experiential wisdom and reality and being. Each of those experiences and expressions create effects which ripple across time and space as eternal reality effects. The realization and actualization of potential creates new ...

 Forum: Questions & Answers   Topic: New member with questions!

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 1:08 pm +0000 

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NodAmanaV, In an earlier post I posed the question regarding what ‘survival value’ really means. I’m still unsure of the answer and your comments rekindled my questions. I’m still unclear whether ‘survival’ means immediate (3days) transmittal to the mansion world and having no survival value can si...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: Additional Revelation

 Post subject: Re: Additional Revelation
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 12:13 pm +0000 

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...impeccable formal training..."???

Hmmmm....

 Forum: Questions & Answers   Topic: New member with questions!

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 9:09 am +0000 

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Certainly is suicide in the material life NOT a final or irrevocable choice If I'm not mistaken, I don't think that the UB says that. I'm pretty sure I've read somewhere where it says that there are people still alive who are technically dead already because of their choices having no survival valu...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: Additional Revelation

 Post subject: Re: Additional Revelation
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 8:40 am +0000 

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Actually there's lots of conflict and contradiction between the two reality perspectives and much distinction between the sources. Let's remain focused here on the source material of the Urantia Papers. Those who claim to correct, revise, update, or continue the UB have little credibility here. And ...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: Making fewer personal plans concerning other personalities.

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 8:34 am +0000 

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So...what do you think it means? I think what it means is that in life, there is an inherent paradox with ourselves, our relationships with others, and the desire to do God's will that is impossible to avoid which, needs to be refined. Regarding Adam, if I had been in his shoes I doubt I would have...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: Making fewer personal plans concerning other personalities.

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 7:58 am +0000 

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How about sticking to the topic? Instead of how I feel. I probably shouldn't have used Adam and Eve as an example. In the perspective of our friendly universe, please forgive me for making that mistake. What do you think is the meaning of "making fewer personal plans concerning other personali...

 Forum: Questions & Answers   Topic: New member with questions!

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 7:55 am +0000 

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Certainly is suicide in the material life NOT a final or irrevocable choice regarding salvation or survival or fusion potential. According to my understanding of the UB. I don't understand: "...failure on such a grand scale..." What grand scale? Freewill requires the potential for error an...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: Making fewer personal plans concerning other personalities.

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 6:38 am +0000 

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What a tender portrayal of personal affection and loyalty this tragedy provides us. Such loyalty indeed to his partner and mate and mother of their children. But what about his loyalty to his children? What about his loyalty to us, the human race? Was that where he drew the line between being self-...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: Making fewer personal plans concerning other personalities.

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 6:12 am +0000 

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Interesting... So...it is Adam's experiential wisdom you question? Only God has perfect wisdom. And God does not require, expect, or judge any experiential beings according to Divine perfection. What is God's will? Do you know? Do you know that Adam's forgiveness of Eve and loyalty to her was agains...

 Forum: Questions & Answers   Topic: New member with questions!

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:27 pm +0000 

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Very interesting speculations. I share many of the same wonderments and am likewise baffled how anyone might awaken in Mansonia and not eagerly forge forward toward transformation and transcendence. I doubt many fail ...a personal opinion. But any such failure must be by choice and intentional, for ...

 Forum: General Urantia Book Discussion   Topic: Making fewer personal plans concerning other personalities.

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:13 pm +0000 

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What about Adam's loyalty (duty) to their children? His children? He was disloyal to God...and his children? This then is your opinion and claim? Hmmmm..... And yet they were selected as 2 of the 24 Counselors. Your assertions and criticism and innuendo seem misplaced. But that's just another opini...
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